User talk:Tmtoulouse

Hello and welcome to Teflpedia.--Bob M 17:32, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * As you're about I'm going to take advantage of you and ask - any idea why I don't see new users in recent changes? It's partly because thre aren't any of course, but when there are they don't show up.--Bob M 17:35, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * The new user log is an extension that has to be installed. If you go to Special Pages:Version on any wiki you can see what extensions are installed and descriptions of what they do. They allow for such things as the "cite" tags, etc. At the moment you only of the cite extension installed. Tmtoulouse 17:39, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Now there's a thing I didn't know.--Bob M 17:45, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Installing the extensions are a fairly straight forward thing to do if you are familiar with FTP. We can chat about it in a bit. I am going to have to do some fine tuning on the vandal brake because the version of mediawiki you have installed works very differently than the version I worked on. I have got it set to brake editing of anonymous users but there is no obvious mechanism to get it to display custom error messages. Anyway, I will keep you updated as I work. 24.36.227.74 17:54, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, although I am not at all familiar with any of this I managed to get "cite" installed by myself. Sorry this installation is so different from RW. and thanks for keeping me updated. :-( --Bob M 17:57, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * What would be the implications of updating the Wiki software- or would that be an even bigger job?--Bob M 17:58, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Updating the wiki software would require the SSH access we had talked about earlier. 24.36.227.74 18:00, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Really??? That's a pain. And a big one. At some point in the future I'd want to update it anyway. :-( --Bob M 18:02, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Doing much of anything even remotely complicated almost always requires shell access, one way you could do it with just FTP is install a local version on a machine, run the update scripts there and then port it over with ftp. 24.36.227.74 18:07, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I see the principle - but it's a bit challenging for one of my limited experience. I suppose the procedure would be something like.


 * Download and install media wiki version XXX om my home PC.
 * Update that - if necessary. (not sure how actually)
 * Presumably save the existing wiki data somewhere safe. (Need to find out how to do this too)
 * Overwrite the appropriate files with FTP. (Guess what - not exactly sure how to do this)
 * Check the extensions still work.
 * Check the data hasn't been corrupted.
 * Reinsert the data if corrupt. (would need some instructions on that too.)
 * Piece of cake really. :-)--Bob M 18:19, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Vandal break
Where do I find the vandal brake?
 * I haven't installed the "move" extensions yet, but you can manually move an account into "vandal" through user rights management in the mean time. Tmtoulouse 18:48, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, I've just seen that. That's cool actually. I'll be the only one using it for a while I imagine.--Bob M 18:49, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * The only thing that the vandal extension on RW does is allow sysops to move people in and out of the vandal group instead of a crate. Do you want me to install that here as well? Tmtoulouse 18:51, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, at the moment it's only me here and the occasional drive-by. So there aren't any other sysops. But it would be nice to have for the future. On the other hand, if it's going to take you a long time - then I've got no problem with waiting until it's actually needed and asking for it then. --Bob M 18:55, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah - I see that you are giving it to me anyway. :-) Thanks.  :-)  Unfortunately my wife is now bending my ear - so I've got to leave this for a while.  :-( --Bob M 19:27, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * But trying to parole Sam Smith didn't work. :-(  --Bob M 19:31, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Yea I am getting very strange permission errors for the file, could you try sending a note to the hosting company with a copy of the error you get when you click one of the buttons and ask them if there is anything odd about permissions for the server that could be causing the problem? Tmtoulouse 19:35, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, I'll get on it tomorrow morning.--Bob M 20:46, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Answer
Hi Tm. Got this:
 * Hello,There were some mod_security errors in logs. I have disabled it for your site. Could you please provide exact steps to replicate the error if problem still persist.

--Bob M 11:42, 9 August 2008 (UTC)